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My objection to the template proposal and the additional form for new instances on Loomio are threefold:
The first is that no matter how you cut it, form is content and enforcing a template onto future proposals will inevitably affect the content of those proposals themselves. How many proposals are going to have content that perfectly fits the proposed template? For example, if we recruited more instances to the Loomio, wouldn't every proposal by and large be the same, in areas like “background?” It also raises barriers for people, and we already have an issue where the vast majority of proposals are made by a handful of people, which leads to the second point:
Enforcing templates and forms to be filled out will only make more work for those involved. You can simply say that it won't, but coming from someone who has been doing that work, I know that it will. If I have to get other instance admins to fill out a form and then fill out a second form myself to initiate the proposal to let them use out Loomio, I know I won't. Asking us to fill out two forms for one proposal is absurdly excessive.
Would you feel ok with that proposal if it was an entirely optional thing?
I.e. just a style guide I would be fine with that I'm a bit confused what to do because I proposed the template but also like ur proposal Chupacabra I also like both, I think they can work together if the template is just a guideline. Start a discussion, prepare the proposal, then vote on it
kawaiipunk I'm happy for the template to just be a page on the wiki tbh
It could even be more of a inspo thing to help people write proposals Puffinux I've added it to our Governance Policy. I'm hoping it's that right place to put it, as it contains details of the 7-day duration policy already. I've worded it as though it was not a hard enforced rule, though this can be changed.
Cocoron It should not be in the GP
The governance policy is a set of rules that require a high threshold to change Amendments
Any changes to this Governance Document must be subject to a proposal requiring at least 4 times as many Agree votes to Disagree votes
Any changes I've removed it Cocoron I've also closed the proposal as it's been open for 7 days
10 days* Puffinux Okay. Apologies. It sounds like the 7 day rule shouldn't be in there then?
I think it passed with four times as many votes anyway? Cocoron The 7 day rule was there from the creation of the GP and was agreed upon when the GP was ratified
It needed 15 Puffinux That makes sense.
Should I create another page with other documents in it then, for things like the proposal structure guidance? Cocoron You have a bit of a carter blanche since the proposal didn't specifying, so it's up to you on how to do it, although I can help you if you like
Specify anything* Puffinux
Puffinux Should I create another page with other documents in it then, for things like the proposal structure guidance? And if so, perhaps the 7-day rule should be removed from the GP and moved to the new page.
Cocoron You have a bit of a carter blanche since the proposal didn't specifying, so it's up to you on how to do it, although I can help you if you like You already do a lot so I'm happy to take this on, unless you actively wish to take part. Otherwise, I can speak to people if I need guidance but otherwise handle things.